McCain: The evidence – in his own words, his fellow veterans, and his captors
ALL ABOUT John McCain.
Rarely discussed facts!!
THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS TRAITOR
Where there is smoke.. there must be fire right?
Isn't that what he said about the allegations about Judge Roy Moore?
McCain: The evidence – in his own words, his fellow veterans, and his captors
OK.. I will tell you upfront I am a Conservative BUT I am not a FAN of John McCain. I have blogged extensively about my dislike for him. BUT I did vote for him because of my hatred of Barack Hussein Obama. But it pisses me off when uninformed people from both political parties Glorify this man based a version of History that he has been able to re create.
The story that he declined release is PREPOSTEROUS! It has been debunked.
John McCain, who has risen to political prominence on his image as a
Vietnam POW war hero, has, inexplicably, worked very hard to hide from
the public stunning information about American prisoners in Vietnam who,
unlike him, didn’t return home. Throughout his Senate career, McCain
has quietly sponsored and pushed into federal law a set of prohibitions
that keep the most revealing information about these men buried as
classified documents. Thus the war hero who people would logically
imagine as a determined crusader for the interests of POWs and their
families became instead the strange champion of hiding the evidence and
closing the books.
The sum of the secrets McCain has sought to hide is not small. There
exists a telling mass of official documents, radio intercepts, witness
depositions, satellite photos of rescue symbols that pilots were trained
to use, electronic messages from the ground containing the individual
code numbers given to airmen, a rescue mission by a special forces unit
that was aborted twice by Washington—and even sworn testimony by two
Defense secretaries that “men were left behind.” This imposing body of
evidence suggests that a large number—the documents indicate probably
hundreds—of the U.S. prisoners held by Vietnam were not returned when
the peace treaty was signed in January 1973 and Hanoi released 591 men,
among them Navy combat pilot John S. McCain.
Look at pictures of the men in captivity,. They are starved and have ribs showing. McCain is shown well fed.
So Why won't John McCain sign Form 180 to declassify his military record?
For those of you that don't know, McCain had his record sealed so people
wouldn't learn the truth.
Excerpt from “Faith of My Fathers” by McCain
EXCERPTS: “on March 25, 1999, two of his fellow POWs, Ted Guy and
Gordon “Swede” Larson told the Phoenix New Times that, while they could
not guarantee that McCain was not physically harmed, they doubted it. As
Larson said, “My only contention with the McCain deal is that while he
was at The Plantation, to the best of my knowledge and Ted’s knowledge,
he was not physically abused in any way. No one was in that camp. It was
the camp that people were released from.”Guy and Larson’s claims are
given credence by McCain’s vehement opposition to releasing the
government’s debriefings of Vietnam War POWs. McCain gave Michael
Isikoff a peek at his debriefs, and Isikoff declared there was “nothing
incriminating” in them, apart from the redactions.
McCain had a unique POW experience. Initially, he was taken to the
infamous Hanoi Hilton prison camp, where he was interrogated. By
McCain’s own account, after three or four days, he cracked. He promised
his Vietnamese captors, “I’ll give you military information if you will
take me to the hospital.”His Vietnamese capturers soon realized their
POW, John Sidney McCain III, came from a well-bred line of American
military elites. McCain’s father, John Jr., and grandfather, John Sr.,
were both full Admirals. A destroyer, the USS John S. McCain, is named
after both of them. While his son was held captive in Hanoi, John McCain
Jr., from 1968 to 1972, was the Commander-in-Chief of U.S. Pacific
Command; Admiral McCain was in charge of all US forces in the Pacific
including those fighting in Vietnam. ..The Admiral’s bad boy was used to
special treatment and his captors knew that. They were working him.For
his part, McCain acknowledges that the Vietnamese rushed him to a
hospital, but denies he was given any “special medical treatment.”
However….two weeks into his stay at the Vietnamese hospital, the Hanoi
press began quoting him. It was not “name rank and serial number, or
kill me,” as specified by the military code of conduct. McCain divulged
specific military information: he gave the name of the aircraft carrier
on which he was based, the number of US pilots that had been lost, the
number of aircraft in his flight formation, as well as information about
the location of rescue ships…
On the other hand, according to one source, McCain’s collaboration
may have had very real consequences. Retired Army Colonel Earl Hopper, a
veteran of World War II, Korea and Vietnam, contends that the
information that McCain divulged classified information North Vietnam
used to hone their air defense system…McCain told his North Vietnamese
captors, “highly classified information, the most important of which was
the package routes, which were routes used to bomb North Vietnam. He
gave in detail the altitude they were flying, the direction, if they
made a turn… he gave them what primary targets the United States was
interested in.” Hopper contends that the information McCain provided
allowed the North Vietnamese to adjust their air-defenses. As result,
Hopper claims, the US lost sixty percent more aircraft and in 1968,
“called off the bombing of North Vietnam, because of the information
McCain had given to them.”
‘When John McCain was my captive‘: interview with former head of Vietnamese prison ‘Hanoi Hilton’ – BBC 6/23/08
EXCERPT: “But I can confirm to you that we never tortured him. We
never tortured any prisoners.” Mr Duyet reminisces instead about how he
often summoned the future US presidential candidate to his private
office for informal chats….So is Mr Duyet implying that that Senator
McCain lied about his treatment at the Hanoi Hilton? “He did not tell
the truth,” he says. “But I can somehow sympathize with him. He lies to
American voters in order to get their support for his presidential
election.”
EXCERPT: from 1992 Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA’s:
“When two U.S. Army enlisted men were captured by the Viet Cong in
1963, they were plunged into an ordeal that would prove to be a
relentless trial of body and spirit by torture. Once they were finally
freed, however, their trials began all over again, when their statements
critical of the U. S. Vietnam policy landed them in a military court
facing a capital offense for violating the military Code of Conduct by
“aiding the enemy.”
But, if your name is John McCain and your father and grandfather
were famous admirals, violating the Code of Conduct by “aiding the
enemy” translates into fodder for a political career, book deals, and
adulation bordering on sainthood. Even though news reports of McCain
collaborating with the enemy continued from the time he was captured in
1967 through 1970, the Navy never considered prosecution as an option.
Instead, Pentagon pencil pushers chose a political spin that lifted
McCain, the former POW turned U.S. Senator, up to a glorified pedestal
where he sprouted a halo and wings and became America’s “POW-hero” and
today a presidential candidate.
No such luck for the two lowly “grunts.”
SANTOLI: But on the Senate side, we had one person standing in the
way of getting in positions that would have been very tough on
government bureaucrats who didn’t tell the truth. And that one person
was Sen. John McCain.
Cpl. BOB DUMAS, U.S. Army (Ret.): He didn’t want nobody to check his
background because a lot of the POWs that was in the camps said he was a
collaborator of the enemy. He gave the enemy the information they
wanted.
Dr. JAMES LUCIER, former U.S. Senate Chief of Staff: But We do know
that when he was there [in the Vietnamese prison], he cooperated with
the communist news services in giving interviews there, ah, not
flattering to the United States.
USRY: Information shows that he made over 32 tapes of propaganda for
the Vietnamese government. Certainly, you do what you need to do to
stay alive. Nobody would fault anybody for that. But there comes a point
in time when enough is enough.
REP: DORNAN: They made those transcriptions, and in the
transcriptions, I heard a POW who heard them comin’ into his cell and
said, “Oh, my God, is that Admiral McCain’s son? Is that the admiral’s
son? Is that Johnny — telling us that our principal targets are schools,
orphanages, hospitals, temples, churches?” That was Jane Fonda’s line.
Where are those transcriptions? Believe me — they’re in the archives of
the museum, the bragging military phony museum in Hanoi. McCain could
not have wanted those [to] turn up in the middle of a presidential race.
He knows that. I know that, and a few other people know that, and
that’s why he went against Bob Dole’s legislation.
DUMAS: And he didn’t want nobody looking into his background in that
camp, what went on in that camp. That stuff is still classified so
nobody can see it. And he just had it classified forever, so nobody’ll
ever look at it.
LUCIER: That he was given special treatment and was put in a room
with two other defectors who were later given special treatment.
Although I will say to his credit he refused to be repatriated as a
result.
REP: DORNAN: This sounds so good at first. McCain was offered the
chance to come home. They called him the “Prince.” And he could have.
But nobody ever takes that one step beyond that. If John … Admiral John
McCain II … “Junior” … if his son, a lieutenant senior grade, had
accepted this princely status and come home in 1967 while the others
would sit there for five years, what would the Navy have done, with the
son of an admiral who opted to get special treatment and come home? No
Navy career. No House seat. No Senate seat. It would have been the end
of his career. [Edit.] And they were offering him this chance to go home
in one of three groups that came home in ‘68.
SANTOLI: They were all collaborators.
REP. DORNAN: And McCain called them this — except for Bill Kagill
[phonetic] — the “slipperies,” the “slimies” and the “sleazies.” I once
forgot one of those names — and he refreshed my memory. The slipperies,
the slimies and the sleazies. So that meant that he would have become a
slimy, a sleazy and a slippery, ruining his career and the admiral’s son
goes home. What I’m saying is, yes — he chose to stay. But did he have
an alternative if he ever wanted to have a life? And what would it have
done to his father?
DOUGLASS: And his activities were sufficiently consistent and
widespread in opposing efforts to learn the truth that he was written up
in a number of articles as a Manchurian candidate in this issue.
REP. DORNAN: In Hanoi, he saw McCain turn red in the face. He even
used the term “Rumblestiltskin” [sic], jumping up and down in place in a
rage: “If you release any of these records that you have here in Hanoi
on me or the other POWs, you will NEVER get diplomatic recognition.”
USRY: McCain may have been an expert on being a prisoner of war but he was by no means an expert on the POW issue.”
“McLamb said the POW’s told him that McCain had sustained two broken
arms and a leg injury from not pulling his arms in when he bailed out
of his A-4 Skyhawk that was shot down over the Truc Bach Lake in Hanoi.
The POW’s said that McCain made 32 propaganda videos for the communist
North Vietnamese in which he denounced America for what they were doing
in Vietnam.”…”Several Vietnam veterans groups do solely exist to expose
McCain’s abandonment of veteran’s interests as well as his lies about
being tortured, including Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain and U.S. Veteran Dispatch. “
In fact, McCain’s own account confirms he broke his own arms while ejecting from his plane.
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